6 Mass. boys accused of beating sleeping immigrant

[Ferb]

BOSTON – Six boys were charged with severely beating a Guatemalan immigrant with bricks, bottles and rocks as he slept near railroad tracks, an attack that civil rights groups decried Tuesday as "hateful."

Derrek Shulman, New England regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, said the July beating of Damian Merida was an example of how immigrants are singled out for attacks.

Police say six boys, ages 11 to 14, beat the 30-year-old Merida in July in Lynn, a city 10 miles northeast of Boston. Merida was hospitalized at Massachusetts General Hospital for a month with serious head injuries. Merida's brother said the attack caused brain damage.

In a statement, police said the Lynn boys targeted Merida because of his ethnicity. Police also said they were looking into the assault of another Guatemalan immigrant and "the possibility that the attack was not the first perpetrated by these youths."

The boys, who have not been named, have pleaded not delinquent to charges of civil rights violations, attempted murder and assault with intent to maim. All but one were released and ordered to wear electronic monitoring bracelets. A 14-year-old remains in state Youth Services custody.

Three teenagers and an 11-year-old were suspended indefinitely from their middle schools last week.

Diego Portillo, president of the Boston-based Latino Professional Network, said the boy's young ages make the alleged crime more shocking.

"Incidents like this are sad reminders that hate continues to exist and spread to our youth," he said.

Pretrial hearings will be held Oct. 1 in Essex District Juvenile Court.

Family friend Nancy Pye, of Swampscott, told the Daily Item of Lynn that Merida was an illegal immigrant who has lived in the U.S. for the last 15 years.

Family members said Merida had been distraught that a former girlfriend was now married and recently had a child. They told the paper that Merida had been drinking a lot around the time of the attack.

Merida is now at Tewksbury State Hospital for rehabilitation treatment.

Lynn police and immigrant activists say other Guatemalan immigrants have recently reported being attacked in Lynn. However, they say most immigrants won't report the beatings or cooperate with police because they are undocumented.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090909/...grant_attacked

This is what happens when you have tools like Lou Dobbs on TV every night fostering racial hatred toward immigrants. Have we not taught our kids one ounce of fucking compassion? What the fuck are a group of 11-14 year olds doing out at night anyway?

I feel a fitting punishment would be to knock these kid's parents out with knockout gas and then just beat the hell out of them. What the fuck is wrong with the parents here, too? You also throw the kids in juvi or a boot camp type enviroment until their 21, see if they decide to beat anyone else up again.

Discuss!

[maualuga]

Yes, this is clearly Lou Dobbs' fault...

[Ferb]

Originally Posted by King87

Yes, this is clearly Lou Dobbs' fault...

Nice way to cherry pick. I called for the parents to have their asses kicked, although Dobbs needs the shit kicked out of him too.

But hey, inciting racial hatred is a ok for Dobbs, because secretly, he's supporting them on the weekend anyway.....

[maualuga]

I didn't cherry pick. You, as usual, blasted the "neocon" before anyone else.

Even though he is as culpable in this as you are.

[Ferb]

Originally Posted by King87

I didn't cherry pick. You, as usual, blasted the "neocon" before anyone else.

Even though he is as culpable in this as you are.

Pssshpt. I've never disparaged an entire race of people (Just Republicans and Texans, who can choose weather or not they are Republicans and Texans). And while I disagree with a lot of people on a lot of things, I don't incite people to violence.

I would not call Dobbs a NeoCon anyway. Paleoconservative is more fitting for him, although, like many other cowards, he tries to hide under the guise of being an independent.

I can damn well guarantee you my kids won't be doing anything like this. Damn well guarantee.

[maualuga]

I don't doubt that your kids would ever do something like that.

My point is that the first person you attacked for this was a conservative.

[Ferb]

Originally Posted by King87

I don't doubt that your kids would ever do something like that.

My point is that the first person you attacked for this was a conservative.

Dobbs himself said that he wasn't a conservative. Try again.

[maualuga]

Originally Posted by Mortgage_Man_X

Dobbs himself said that he wasn't a conservative. Try again.

Are you really trying to tell me that you haven't lumped him in with all the conservatives that you've attacked before? You just called him a "Paleoconservative".

[Ferb]

Originally Posted by King87

Are you really trying to tell me that you haven't lumped him in with all the conservatives that you've attacked before? You just called him a "Paleoconservative".

You said I attacked the conservative. Lou Dobbs says he is not an conservative, so techinally, you were the first one to make mention of conservatives. I called him a Paleoconservative as an insult.

[maualuga]

Originally Posted by Mortgage_Man_X

You said I attacked the conservative. Lou Dobbs says he is not an conservative, so techinally, you were the first one to make mention of conservatives. I called him a Paleoconservative as an insult.

But you said that he is a conservative and I know that you consider him to be one.

Let's just agree to hate each other.

[Ferb]

Originally Posted by MAUALUGA!!!!!

But you said that he is a conservative and I know that you consider him to be one.

Let's just agree to hate each other.

I hate you.

[Major Bludd]

These kinds of things should happen more often and we would have less immigrants walking around whistling at American women and staring at them uncomfortably when no one else is around. FUCK YEAH AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[g00tch]

YEAH!

[Brad_For_Prez_2020]

Who said this attack was at night? Bums/drunks sleep whenever they want. It could have been 8am. Noon. 4pm. Etc.

Plus, I highly doubt that the boys ranging from 11-14 watch Lou Dobbs, or any news unless its MTV News.

[Jamie_B]

Originally Posted by Brad_For_Prez_2020

Who said this attack was at night? Bums/drunks sleep whenever they want. It could have been 8am. Noon. 4pm. Etc.

Plus, I highly doubt that the boys ranging from 11-14 watch Lou Dobbs, or any news unless its MTV News.

Doesnt mean the parents dont.

[maualuga]

Originally Posted by Jamie_B

Doesnt mean the parents dont.

MAUALUGA!!!!!

That's a fair point. But, do you really believe that somehow Dobbs is responsible for this?

[Jamie_B]

Originally Posted by MAUALUGA!!!!!

MAUALUGA!!!!!

That's a fair point. But, do you really believe that somehow Dobbs is responsible for this?

When someone continues to preach hate speech like Dobbs does, some folks listen.

[Ferb]

Originally Posted by Brad_For_Prez_2020

Who said this attack was at night? Bums/drunks sleep whenever they want. It could have been 8am. Noon. 4pm. Etc.

Plus, I highly doubt that the boys ranging from 11-14 watch Lou Dobbs, or any news unless its MTV News.

First off, what are 11-14 year old kids doing close to railroad tracks.....REGARDLESS OF WHAT TIME IT IS?!?!?!?! Secondly, why in the living FUCK are they beating up homeless dudes?

Jamie hit the nail on the head. The #1 influence in these kid's lives is their parents. Parenting fail.

[maualuga]

Originally Posted by Mortgage_Man_X

First off, what are 11-14 year old kids doing close to railroad tracks.....REGARDLESS OF WHAT TIME IT IS?!?!?!?! Secondly, why in the living FUCK are they beating up homeless dudes?

Jamie hit the nail on the head. The #1 influence in these kid's lives is their parents. Parenting fail.

Actually at that age their greatest influence is their friends.

The parents suck balls and should get BUFUed.

[Brad_For_Prez_2020]

Originally Posted by Mortgage_Man_X

First off, what are 11-14 year old kids doing close to railroad tracks.....REGARDLESS OF WHAT TIME IT IS?!?!?!?! Secondly, why in the living FUCK are they beating up homeless dudes?

Jamie hit the nail on the head. The #1 influence in these kid's lives is their parents. Parenting fail.

A lot of kids play around railroad tracks. It's part of being a kid. You do stupid shit.

Why in the living FUCK do grown as men do it to?

And lastly, I agree with Jamie, but to say that Lou Dobbs is linked to this because of what he preaches on tv holds no water, because we don't know what the parents watch and relay to their kids in their daily life lessons.

Parenting fail yes. Lou Dobbs fail, yes, but not in this case.

[Megalicious23]

You can't blanket-blame the parents for this. Just like you don't know what they watch on tv, you have no idea what kind of parents they are.

You can tell your kids a million times not to beat up homeless people, doesn't mean they'll listen to you.

[IKOTA]

Originally Posted by Megalicious23

You can't blanket-blame the parents for this. Just like you don't know what they watch on tv, you have no idea what kind of parents they are.

You can tell your kids a million times not to beat up homeless people, doesn't mean they'll listen to you.

This should't be funny, but yet I find myself laughing when I read this........imagine the scenario:

Mom: "Now, Tommy.......STOP beating up homeless people!!!"

Tommy: "Sure mom, I'll try" ***thinking in his head that he can't wait to find a homeless person to beat up***

[Major Bludd]

Originally Posted by Mortgage_Man_X

First off, what are 11-14 year old kids doing close to railroad tracks.....REGARDLESS OF WHAT TIME IT IS?!?!?!?! Secondly, why in the living FUCK are they beating up homeless dudes?

Jamie hit the nail on the head. The #1 influence in these kid's lives is their parents. Parenting fail.

Well Marty kids are beating up homeless people these days because they are sick and fucking tired of them asking for "spare change" or "Can you spare a little change"?

[Ferb]

Originally Posted by Megalicious23

You can't blanket-blame the parents for this. Just like you don't know what they watch on tv, you have no idea what kind of parents they are.

You can tell your kids a million times not to beat up homeless people, doesn't mean they'll listen to you.

Pssspht. I can almost guarantee bad parenting, or lack of parenting, led to this. The parents in this case need the shit kicked out of them.

[jamiethelanky]

Originally Posted by Major Bludd

Well Marty kids are beating up homeless people these days because they are sick and fucking tired of them asking for "spare change" or "Can you spare a little change"?

Ask why they need that 'little change' and where the government could help.

[maualuga]

Originally Posted by jamiethelanky

Ask why they need that 'little change' and where the government could help.

Sigh, you are really naive.

[SNARF]

YouTube - America - Fuck Yeah!

[Ferb]

Originally Posted by MAUALUGA!!!!!

Sigh, you are really naive.

Yea, because poor people are only poor because of their own actions and we should beat the shit out of them, espeically dark skinned ones. That's it

[maualuga]

Originally Posted by Mortgage_Man_X

Yea, because poor people are only poor because of their own actions and we should beat the shit out of them, espeically dark skinned ones. That's it

Most poor people are poor because of their own actions.

I didn't say beat the shit out of them.

[Ferb]

Originally Posted by MAUALUGA!!!!!

Most poor people are poor because of their own actions.

I didn't say beat the shit out of them.

Kinda like the US vets down on Skid Row, huh? Psspht.

"Blessed are the poor in spirit:
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

[maualuga]

Originally Posted by Mortgage_Man_X

Kinda like the US vets down on Skid Row, huh? Psspht.

"Blessed are the poor in spirit:
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

There are exceptions to ever rule.

Most homeless people aren't veterans.

I don't hate the homeless, when they approach me I usually give them money. Hell, my fat ass has handed over my food before. That being said I believe in personal accountability. You don't because you're a democrat. It's ok, I love you.

[jamiethelanky]

Originally Posted by MAUALUGA!!!!!

Sigh, you are really naive.

No. I look for solutions where you just want to bitch and moan. You call it naive, I call it pragmatic. You call it idealism, I call it justice.

You don't want homeless people bothering you? Then let's help them off the fucking streets.

Too many people are punished for being poor. Too many people are overly punished for boneheaded decisions they made.

[jamiethelanky]

Originally Posted by MAUALUGA!!!!!

There are exceptions to ever rule.

Most homeless people aren't veterans.

I don't hate the homeless, when they approach me I usually give them money. Hell, my fat ass has handed over my food before. That being said I believe in personal accountability. You don't because you're a democrat. It's ok, I love you.

So by personal accountability you think people should freeze to death on city streets because of a few dumb moves?

That's not a question of personal accountability but your own cruel nature.

[maualuga]

Originally Posted by jamiethelanky

So by personal accountability you think people should freeze to death on city streets because of a few dumb moves?

That's not a question of personal accountability but your own cruel nature.

How you got that out of what I said is beyond me.

I'm not cruel, I live in reality. You live in a world where everyone who fucks up is a victim and shouldn't have anything bad happen to them.

You're naive. You, for the most part, are a good person.

[maualuga]

Originally Posted by jamiethelanky

No. I look for solutions where you just want to bitch and moan. You call it naive, I call it pragmatic. You call it idealism, I call it justice.

You don't want homeless people bothering you? Then let's help them off the fucking streets.

Too many people are punished for being poor. Too many people are overly punished for boneheaded decisions they made.

Sigh, there you go proving me right, again. Your solution is always "HAVE THE GOVERNMENT DO IT!"

Homeless people don't bother me. I normally gave them some money, I feel bad for them. I don't enjoy watching someone live on the streets. I also don't feel the need to make excuses for them. Your "justice" always leads to people piggybacking off of the government which then leads to the government being massive and controlling every aspect of our lives.